[Mesorah] Fwd: Pausal form In Mishnah

[Mandel, Seth]

Rabbi Seth Mandel
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> R. Elozor Meir's point has some truth to it.  We call these forms "pausal" because they always occur with a silluq (sof pasuq) or etnahto.  But they occur elsewhere as well.  For instance, the forms could be also called "list forms" or "parallel phrase/clause forms," because they occur regularly there, e.g. Ex 16:23. 
These parallel clause forms clearly exist in L'shon Chazal, based on all the ancient  vocalized mishnayos. But that does not necessarily mean that every word at the end of a Mishnah has a "pausal" form; usually they do not. 
The grammar of L'shon Chazal is still a subject of research. But grammar is 
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>     Is it clear that "yachloku" is a pausal form for Chazal?  In the printed Shas, it appears in the middle of a statement, in the Mishna Yevamos 38a.
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> From: Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <jeremy.simon at nyu.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Mesorah] Pausal form In Mishnah
> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:33:52 -0500
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> I didn't say that we can learn nothing from the texts, although how we do so is beyond my competence. I just said that seeing a single letter in a printed text is not sufficient to base any conclusions on.
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> Jeremy
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> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, R. Rich Wolpoe <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com<mailto:rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> This may be true, but unlike Tanach, the mesorah of the text of mishna is not well fixed. So you can't be m'dayek as easily in a given letter.
> Jeremy�
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> So how can we ever know that l'shon Hazal did not have Pausals - EG gofen?
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> We can know leisheiv instead of losheves, but what else can we say for sure?
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