[Mesorah] She'ata / Sha'ata

HayyimObadyah at aol.com HayyimObadyah at aol.com
Mon Feb 20 13:00:26 PST 2012


oops.  forgot to check geshem without the definite article.  that appears in
Joel 2:23
...כִּֽי־נָתַ֥ן לָכֶ֛ם אֶת־הַמּוֹרֶ֖ה לִצְדָקָ֑ה וַיּ֣וֹרֶד לָכֶ֗ם גֶּ֛שֶׁם מוֹרֶ֥ה וּמַלְק֖וֹשׁ בָּֽרִאשֽׁוֹן׃

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From: mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org [mailto:mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org] On Behalf Of HayyimObadyah at aol.com
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I apologize if I missed something here.  

morid haggeshem is from the prayerbook.

the only uses of root YRD with geshem I can find in Tanakh are
Isaiah 55:10 כִּ֡י כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֣ר יֵרֵד֩ הַגֶּ֨שֶׁם וְהַשֶּׁ֜לֶג מִן־הַשָּׁמַ֗יִם...
and (more relevant perhaps)
Ezekiel 34:26 וְנָֽתַתִּ֥י אוֹתָ֛ם וּסְבִיב֥וֹת גִּבְעָתִ֖י בְּרָכָ֑ה וְהֽוֹרַדְתִּ֤י הַגֶּ֨שֶׁם֙ בְּעִתּ֔וֹ גִּשְׁמֵ֥י בְרָכָ֖ה יִֽהְיֽוּ׃

Hayyim

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From: mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org [mailto:mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org] On Behalf Of R. Rich Wolpoe
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Mesorah] She'ata / Sha'ata


  When I discussed morid hageshem with RYBS, he knew a lot about who used which girsa, but knew nothing about the fact that goshem was an emendation by a printed T'NaKh, and that all the mss. had geshem.»

Gosh! So goshem is a bad emndation. This rains geshem on my parade

Who made this emendation?

What do Keter and Leningrad codeces say?
Shalom and Regards, RRW
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