[Mesorah] Lashaon Tanach vs. Lashon Hazal
Seth Mandel
sethm37 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 11 09:54:29 PDT 2007
the longer brokhos are clearly using HaZal references.
HaNosen LaYo'ef Koach is not a brokho composed by HaZaL.
I was referring to the birkhos hamitzvos, which are a non-T'NaKh innovation.
Longer brokhos are not; they are specifically quoted in Shmuel and Divre
HaYomim.
A useful check is looking in the mss. and seeing where the loshon of -okh
rather than -akho is used. Later grammarians changed it, but in most of the
t'fillo, except for Biblical references, -okh is used.
>From: "Richard Wolpoe" <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>
>To: "Seth Mandel" <sethm37 at hotmail.com>
>CC: mesorah at aishdas.org
>Subject: Re: [Mesorah] Lashaon Tanach vs. Lashon Hazal
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:00:46 -0400
>
>Look at birchos hashachar e.g. zokeif kefufim etc. they follow flollow
>Tanach.
>Even the "later "bracha nosein layaie koach is staright out of yshay [my
>bar
>mitzv haftora]
>So does the first bracha of Avos in the amidah
>
>ergo Brachos are frequnetly minted with Tanachy imagery
>
>I just wanted to know if there is a pattern at work in which brachos fall
>into which category
>--
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>On 9/11/07, Seth Mandel <sethm37 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > general rule: HaZal composed t'fillos in L'shon HaZaL except when they
> > were
> > quoting the T'NaKh or making a reference thereto.
> > Since the references abound, there is no rule for most places. But
> > b'rakhot, being a non-T'NaKh innovation, all follow L'shon HaZal
> >
> > >From: "Richard Wolpoe" <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>
> > >To: mesorah at aishdas.org
> > >Subject: [Mesorah] Lashaon Tanach vs. Lashon Hazal
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:26:09 -0400
> > >
> > >It appears that many Tefillos and Brachos conform with Lashon Tananch.
> > >
> > >I have always been bothered by this question:
> > >Why do we say LEISEHEV bassukah instead of LASEHEVES basukkah?
> > >
> > >Is there a pattern here or is this unique?
> >
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