[Avodah] value independent of halacha?

[Micha Berger]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2025 at 10:17:26PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
> R' Joel Rich asked:
> > From a pure halachic viewpoint ISTM there is no benefit for an
> > avel to lead services up to, but not including, yishtabach (some
> > minyanim have no one leading that portion). Is the value that
> > klal yisrael has invested it with value independent of halacha?
> 
> You have hit upon a point which has caused me great frustration over the
> decades.  The Psukei Dzimra Chazan (or however you want to refer to him)
> does serve a very important function. He does the chessed of helping the
> tzibur pace themselves.

If there only is a Qaddish or two before PZ because the minyan are in sync
with a Chazan, the Chazan is even doing the Qaddish recitation minhag.
But ignoring that...

Maybe we should rephrase the question, then, as why the haqpadah for
this mitzvah. There are many ways to help a tzibbur. Some of them, like
a tzedaqah donation or a full fundraiser, are also common.

Chodesh Tov!
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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