[Avodah] Ashkenazic Pronunciation

[Meir Shinnar]

Prof. Levine’s post actually confirms my position.

RMB was arguing not merely that an Israeli pronunciation (“abazit”) should not be allowed in an Ashekenazic Shul, but that for certain thinks ,he himself is not yotze.

The two poskim involved gave a psak that the abazit pronunciation was not acceptable in that Shul.  It is not at all clear that they would have accepted a sefardi or a teimani pronunciation either for that Shul.  However, the psak given was not that the person had to change or he wouldn’t be yotze himself in ravening  - but that the pronounciation was not acceptable for that Ashkenazi Shul….

That issue of different minhagim in a Shul is a complex one- and most shuls are far more tolerant of different minhagim within the same Shul.  In Israel there  are shuls where the nusach is that of whoever is ba’al tefilla.  Even in America, far more shuls are tolerant, for example, of people in the same minyan both putting on tefillin and not putting on tefillin during chol hamoed.
One corrects for errors in leining (and ? davening) which change meaning - and a different pronounciation may lead to misunderstanding.  



Meir Shinnar


> On May 14, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Prof. L. Levine <llevine at stevens.edu> wrote:
> 
> Recently, both R. Micha Berger and R. Meir Shinnar have posted on this topic.  I would like to add the following:
> 
> When I lived in Elizabeth, NJ (1968 - 1974) Rav P. M. Teitz stopped someone who was davening for the Amud using Israeli pronunciation and said, "You can pronounce any word you want with Israeli pronunciation. However, you must pronounce HaShem's name with Ashkenaz pronunciation."
> 
> Rabbi Dr. Joel Rosenschein, who started Petach, told me that when he lived in Boro Park he davened at a minyan in which the Baal Kriah used Israeli pronunciation. When Rav Moshe Feinstein was asked about this, he said that either the Baal Kriah had to use Ashkenaz pronunciation or stop leining.
> 
> Professor Yitzchok Levine

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