[Avodah] birchat hanehenin

Danny Schoemann doniels at gmail.com
Tue Aug 18 04:55:45 PDT 2020


> From: "Rich, Joel" <JRich at Segalco.com>

> If one had full intent to be yotzeih with another's birchat hanehenin and then did not eat, is it a bracha l'vatala for him?

I would compare it to the Kitzur in 127:3  (excuse the Hebrew for the
????? crowd) - translation from Sefaria (after removing a Chumra not
in the original):

 וְכֵן תַּעֲנִית שֵׁנִי חֲמִישִּׁי וְשֵׁנִי שֶׁלְּאַחַר פֶּסַח
וְסֻכּוֹת, אִם עָנָה אָמֵן אַחַר מִּי שֶׁבֵּרַךְ וְהָיָה דַּעְתּוֹ
לְהִתְעַנּוֹת, דַּי בְּכָךְ וְאֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ קַבָּלָה אַחֶרֶת.

"Similarly, regarding the fasts on Monday, Thursday and Monday
following Pesach and Sukkos. If you answer Amein after the Mi
shebeirach [a blessing for those who fast on these days] and you
intended to fast, this is sufficient, and no other form of acceptance
is needed. "

וּמִכָּל מָקוֹם אִם מִתְחָרֵט וְאֵינוֹ רוֹצֶה לְהִתְעַנּוֹת, רַשַּׁאי,
כֵּיוָן שֶׁלֹּא קִבֵּל עָלָיו בְּפֵרוּשׁ וְלֹא הוֹצִיא בְּפִיו שֶׁהוּא
רוֹצֶה לְהִתְעַנּוֹת

"Nevertheless, if you change your mind, and do not wish to fast, you
may [eat], since you did not expressly commit yourself."

This last line is - in my mind - parallel to your query.

Seems that answering Amen - even with intention - is one way of
getting the best of both worlds.

Kol Tuv

- Danny


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