[Avodah] Whether You Come to Talk to God, to Your Friends or to Both, Shul is a Place For You: A Measured Call Regarding Talking in Shul

Prof. Levine larry62341 at optonline.net
Wed Jan 2 12:11:26 PST 2019


At 02:20 PM 1/2/2019, Micha Berger wrote:
>  But it's not like the problem is any less in
>Hashkamah Minyanim or my own 9-11am Shabbos morning minyan.

When I can, I daven in the Lakewood K'Vosikin minyan during the week. 
There is literally  no talking during this minyan.

The attendees are people who take davening very seriously.  Also the 
davening is paced. Brachos start exactly 30 minutes before 
sunrise,  Baruch Sheamar is exactly 10 minutes later.  Borachu is 
exactly 10 minutes later than this, and Shemoneh Esrei is exactly at 
netz.  One is given 7 or 8 minutes to say Shemoneh Esrei. On a 
weekday without leining davening takes about 50 minutes,  With 
leining about an hour.

There is little talking during the Hashkama minyan that I run on 
Shabbos morning in the YI of Ave J.  If people talk,  I often suggest 
that they go to the Main  Minyan which starts at 9.  I know for a 
fact that people talk during this minyan.


>I have repeatedly said that if I ran a shul, I would teach what davening
>is about. It would reduce the boredum. And for those for whom that's not
>enough, it would make the idea of "lifnei Mi atah omeid" more of a
>reality. Where people wouldn't have the chutzpah to talk.
>
>
>Start with teaching the hashkafos of tefillah, from R' Chaim Volozhiner, the
>Besh"t, Moharan and RSRH.

The sefer Rav Schwab on Prayer is what I would recommend.  It gives 
marvelous insights into the weekday davening.

YL


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