[Avodah] Menachot Question 79a

[Micha Berger]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 10:27:18PM +0100, R Arie Folger wrote:
:> According to the Tosefta ad loc 8:10
:> <https://www.sefaria.org/Tosefta_Menahot.8.10>, it's R' Meir who breings
:> down the machloqes, and R' Yehudah who says lo nechliqu.
...
: That doesn't contradict what I reported; it is, in fact, exactly as
: reported in the sugya.

On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Arie Folger wrote:
: The problem is that Rabbi Eli'ezer and Rabbi Yehoshua' only disagree
: regarding the loaves of a Todah sacrificed chutz limkomo according to Rabbi
: Yehudah's analysis, while according to Rabbi Meir there ain't no such
: disagreement between them.

You typoed, and I got confused.

So, going by what the gemara and Tosefta actually say, let's go back to
your question with typoes corrected.

On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 08:35:53PM +0100, R Arie Folger wrote something like:
: Menachot 78b-79a deals with the question of the sanctity of the loaves of a
: todah sacrifice that was deficient in some way...

: Rambam's psak also accords with the two kelalim of halakha kestam mishna
: and also Rabbi Meir veRabbi Yehudah halakha keRabbi Meir.

: And yet, I find that here it is difficult, because... Towards the end of
: the sugya (on 79a), there is a disagreement between Rabba and Rava
: regarding what to do with a Chatat that had been slaughtered with the
: disqualifying intention of chutz limqomo and then erroneously brought up
: upon the altar. The Gemara explains the disagreement between them as
: flowing forth from the disagreement  between Rabbi Eli'ezer and Rabbi
: Yehoshua' regarding a Todah sacrificed with that same disqualifying
: intention.

: The problem is that Rabbi Eli'ezer and Rabbi Yehoshua' only disagree
: regarding the loaves of a Todah sacrificed chutz limkomo according to Rabbi
: [Meir]'s analysis, while according to Rabbi Yehudah there ain't no such
: disagreement between them.

: Hence, the conlcusion of the sugya, citing the disagreement between Rabba
: and Rava, seems to indicate that the correct interpretation is according to
: Rabbi [Meir].

... which is how the Rambam pasqens. So what's the question?


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-Micha

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