[Avodah] Rav Melamed on metal pots

Micha Berger via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Wed Sep 21 10:51:58 PDT 2016


On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 04:23:34PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
: http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/26285/blias-in-todays-pots-and-pans

: A poster there gives Rav Lior's original Hebrew, and this translation of it:

:> Even according to the opinion of the Rama, who is stringent with
:> glass utensils, saying that since they are initially made from
:> sand their ruling is like earthenware. But stainless steel
:> utensils, that don't hardly absorb anything and are made of
:> metal not sand, it is permissible to cook in them meat, to clean
:> well and after to cook milk the same day, and the reverse as well.
...
: Why is there a great reluctance to distinguish between earthenware and
: glass, while being far less reluctant to distinguish between those metals
: and this metal?

You are thinking the way the MB would -- if the sevara applies in one
place, why not apply it in the other?

But as learning AhS acclimates you to, sometimes halakhah and sevara
diverge; there are other factors that can go into pesaq. It could well
be that they disagree with the Rama on the issue of sevara, and if given
a blank slate they would distinguish between cheres and glass as well.

But rather than a blank slate, they are dealing in a world where the Rama
pasqened lechumerah centuries before them. There are even cases where a
poseiq would continue along a precedent set lequlah if he didn't think the
gap between the quality of the sevaros were too far to overlook. (Where
"too far" is a shiqul hadaas issue. Another instance of why we require
a poseiq to have had shimush.)

But going meiqil against the Rama's accepted precedent? That requires
a much higher threshold than using the very same sevara in a case that
post-dates him (stainless steel).

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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