[Avodah] Why Lie When Truth Can Also Achieve Peace
lisa at starways.net
Wed Jan 2 08:29:16 PST 2013
On 1/2/2013 7:40 AM, Zev Sero wrote:
> On 2/01/2013 1:07 AM, Arie Folger wrote:
>> That's your statement. Can you please back this up with Chazal? Or at
>> least a Rishon?
> What exactly are you challenging? What part of what I wrote do you not
> already know to be true? Hamefursamos einam tzrichim ra'ayah; are you
> just trying to assign me some make-work?!
It's polite to include some of what you're referring to, so that people
don't have to go back and search through old emails.
[It could very well have been deleted by my hand. When there is a rapid
discussion in which no quotes are trimmed, I sometimes step in. -micha]
You'd written this:
> Prophecy and Ruach Hakodesh are not the same thing. Nevuah went away.
> Ruach Hakodesh never went away; it's what tzadikim today have. It's
> not direct communication of information; it's an ability to see the
> hidden truth. So by default he would know everything that it's relevant
> for him to know, unless Hashem specifically hides it from him.
Things that are not "mefursamos" and do require a ra'ayah:
1) Tzaddikim today have ruach ha-kodesh.
2) Ruach ha-kodesh is an all-or-nothing thing, so that a person who has
it would know everything it's relevant for him to know, unless Hashem
specifically hides it from him.
I challenge both of these assertions. Please provide sources in Chazal,
or at least a Rishon.
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