[Avodah] Shmirat Shabbat and Non-Mevushal Wine

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Tue Jul 10 14:47:50 PDT 2012


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:09:24AM -0500, Lisa Liel wrote:
> I was under the impression that not only could you not drink  
> non-mevushal wine that had been touched by a non-Jew, that you also  
> couldn't drink it if it was touched by a Jew who wasn't shomer Shabbat.   
> The other day, I was told that this is a matter of dispute.  Can someone  
> clarify this?

There is no dispute -- the touch of a mechalel Shabbos or his carrying the
wine does make non-mevushal
wine stam yeinam.

What is under dispute is whether a tinoq shenishba qualifies as a mechalel
Shabbos WRT this din. RYBS, RMMS (the LR) and RAYK all prohibit, even though
all three do count heterodox Jews toward a minyan. RMF is matir.

See the thread
http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/getindex.cgi?section=T#TINOK%20SHENISHBA
and
http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/getindex.cgi?section=T#TINOK%20SHENISHBA%20FWD

ROY, kedarko beqodesh, has an exhaustive discussion in YE I YD 11.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha



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