[Avodah] Mechallel Shabbos to destroy a non-kosher phone

[Zev Sero]

On 5/07/2012 11:40 AM, Arie Folger wrote:
> RZS replied to RAE:
>>> Only to people who wish to sublimate their their will to his authority.
>>> And almost by definition, anyone who defies that authority  has
>>> withdrawn his or her consent.
>>
>> Hardly.   Or else no melech and no beis din would ever have authority.
>
> Well, that's why a melekh only becomes one after being properly
> appointed by a navi and Sanhedrin. Barring that, he is no melekh. Man
> malkheio, rabbanon can only work for those who accept that rav's
> authority, so indeed, the kind of king you make a rebbe into is one of
> rather limited authority.

It does not, however, exclude anyone who disobeys.


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