[Avodah] lifne iver

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Tue Jun 12 02:17:11 PDT 2012


<< 1- First (and most weakly), lifnei iveir isn't limited to halachic
michsholim. It would mean that a rav could pasqen that going to a stock
broker is assur if he believed it too likely led to bad investements.
Invoking LI would mean that a rav's opinion on any topic could be
turned into pesaq -- preventing people from making mistakes.

2- Lifnei iveir is BALC. Who said there is the same issur against
fooling yourself?

3- The argument is too powerful. There would be no gezeiros left -- only
pesaqim in lifnei iveir. Every gezeirah avoids a potential mikhshol,
a habit or mistake that would make sin all too likely. If you say that
there is a "pesaq in lifnei iveir", then there are no gezeiros. >>

The Minchat Chinuch argues that one causing another to violate a rabbinic
prohibition violates lifne iver from the Torah, since it is no worse than
giving bad advice.

On a different topic the CC once (allegedly) said loshan ha-Rah about
himself to avoid getting kavod from a stranger who didnt recognize him. I
once heard from RYBS that he didnt believe the story since it is obvious
that one violates the prohibition of Lashon ha-rah even about oneself.

Also there is the famous psak of RSZA that lifne iver doesnt apply if it
would cause the other person to hate him since that also would be lifne
iver. Hence, he allowed in modern society giving food to someone to doesnt
make a bracha if not doing so would cause hatred of religion.

-- 
Eli Turkel
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