[Avodah] a woman shaliach

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Dec 7 14:53:13 PST 2011


On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 10:32:40AM +0200, Liron Kopinsky wrote:
: On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:
:> Second is a mar'is ayin problem... Rumor might go around that they saw him
:> marrying the shelichah.

: Why would this affect whether the other kiddushin would be chal?

When someone asks "can", they might technically be asking is it chal,
but the way people speak, intending "may" is just as common. I was
suggesting that subsequent confusion might create an issur; leaving the
question of whether such shelichus is possible.

On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 11:03:57AM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: I am confused. Does anyone claim that the bride's brother cannot be a
: shaliach because he cant do the kiddushin for himself? For that matter
: can't a mamzer be a shaliach for kiddushin?

A person must be in the inyan in general in order to be a shaliach. IOW,
a man can only be a shaliach leqabalah because a man could in theory
accept qiddushin for his daughter who is a qetanah. (At least, that's
the Y-mi's conclusion; I don't know what happened to the sugya since.)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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