[Avodah] Halachic Guidelines for kashrut

[Prof. Levine]

At 01:27 PM 11/28/2011, martin brody wrote:
>"See the above URL for the rest of these articles.
>  From this articles it should be clear why there
>are differences between kashrus in the US and
>Israel and the rest of the world and why one
>should not extrapolate from the standards of one
>organization in a given country to the situation in other countries.
>YL"
>
>Sorry, but I completely disagree with you.
>A jar of Polish jam that is kosher in Sainsbury's, Golders Green, is 
>just as kosher in Trader Joes in Westwood, California.
>That there are kashrut agences that have standards that are meta 
>halachic,(none of the majors permit batel, for example) and differ 
>amongst themselves in many cases, is irrelevant to the kashrut of a 
>product, including that lovely vegetable, Brussel sprouts that 
>started this whole thing off. Don't want to rely on those guidlines? 
>Then don't, but please do not suggest that the products are not kosher.
>Kind regards,

Did you see anything in what I wrote about being 
non-kosher?   (However, you seem to have forgotten the Rabbi Simon of 
the LBD said they do not approve Brussels sprouts without supervision.)

Again from the Halachic Policy Guidelines of the Kashrus Authority of 
Australia http://bit.ly/t04ow7

Similarly there are two distinct paradigms in relation to supervision 
of kosher foods. The certification paradigm, when a company comes to 
you and pays you for your services as well as markets also 
specifically to Jews; and the approval paradigm, where you initiate 
the visit to the company, you are not paid by the company and the 
company are not particularly interested in the Kosher market.

and

3. We have a third level (that does not exist in the USA). These are 
what we have called "approved" products manufactured by persons not 
of the Jewish faith. I have written a detailed article explaining the 
halachic rationale and resultant differences as well as our current 
policies in that regard and you may find it on our website 
www.ka.org.au in the halachic policies section. It is in relation to 
this "level" that we indeed follow the London Beth Din, The 
Manchester Beth Din, The Johannesburg Beth Din, and all who currently 
list "approved" products.

Note the following from the same URL

Kosher Australia based in Victoria has announced that it is moving to 
only use the certification paradigm, and as such in their most recent 
update they have removed products such as Sanitarium So Good. That 
policy change is of course their choice, and we emphasise that it 
should be fully respected by those under their jurisdiction. However, 
the rabbis of The Kashrut Authority (comprising the rabbis of The 
Sydney Beth Din and the Yeshiva Rabbinate with over forty years' 
experience in Kashrut in NSW) are of the view that it is *still 
necessary for us to retain the approvals paradigm*.

 From this I get the impression that if they could move away from the 
approvals paradigm they would.  YL





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