[Avodah] Question for Gerim or those who teach them

[Lisa Liel]

On 10/10/2011 1:00 PM, Zev Sero wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 10:19 AM, Chana Luntz wrote:
>> When somebody is becoming a ger, ie in the period between having decided
>> to pursue conversion, and the actual mila/tevila, is one 
>> encouraged/taught to:
>>
>> a) Notsay brochos (while presumably being taught when to and what to say
>> in preparation for the occurrence of the conversion)?
>>
>> b) Say brochos without shem and malchus?
>>
>> c) Say brochosin their entirety(presumably mishum chinuch)?
>>
>> Is a distinction made between  brochos over mitzvos and other forms of
>> brocha (ie nehnin, shevach)?  How about matters such as Kiddush and
>> havdala?
>
> Behashgacha pratit as I read this there is a ger in the room with me,
> so I asked him.  He was taught to say all the brachot exactly as he
> would say them after.   As far as kiddush and havdalah, he would hear
> them from other people.
>
> Legufo shel inyan, I can see why you would have a question about birkot
> hamitzvot, but I don't understand why birchot hanehenin or shevach would
> even be a question; even if a nochri has no intention of converting, why
> should he not say brachot?  Surely he too is obligated to thank and
> praise Hashem for all the good that He does.

That doesn't mean the nusach would be the same, though.  Elokeinu means 
*our* God.