[Avodah] bishul akum for a chiloni

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Mon Dec 12 11:14:20 PST 2011


RMF (YD 45-46), Tzitz Eliezer (9-41), and Yabia Omer YD 5-10 all state that
Bishul Akum does not apply to chilonim.
Teshuvot ve_haghagot 3-247 disagrees

This is besides all those that claim that a chiloni in modern society does
not have a din of a mumar.
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Several people mentioned that according to Sefardim the Jew needs to put
the pot on the flame and not just light the flame.
ROY is "melamed zechut" on sefardim who use the general hechsher which only
has the masgiach light the fire. He combines several heters together
including but not only relying on the Rama.  He concludes that the proper
behavior for a sefardi is not to rely on this heter.

I note that ROY mentions the standard hechsher of the rabbanut as being
problematic. However, I assume(does anyone know the facts?)  the same
problem would effect restaurants under the Badatz of the Edah who in
general only insist on Ashkenazi  halachot, such as allowing more than 50%
of the wine or grape juice to be added water.

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Eli Turkel
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