[Avodah] Using Non-Jewish Tunes For Mussaf of Rosh Hashanah?

[Micha Berger]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 05:53:51PM -0500, Lisa Liel wrote:
>> Just the opening phrase. But, you underestimate the Ashkenazi melody
>> for Kol Nidrei. It was one of the tunes the Maharil declared miSinai,
>> meaning it was old even when he was born in 1365 or so. (And thus to
>> be considered minhag kedin.) Beethoven was born in 1770. If there was
>> borrowing, it went the other way.

> Not that I'm disagreeing, but how do you know that the tune we have  
> today is the one the Maharil was talking about?

Because Yekkes and chazanim who take chazanus seriously wouldn't tamper
with any of the MiSinai tunes. We have a very strong living mesorah.

(Although I would consider the Ashkanzi melody to Qol Nidrei to really
be a narrow range rather than a single specific tune. At "veqinusei"
or so onward there is some regional and creative divergence.)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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