[Avodah] r reisman's question

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Fri Sep 23 13:45:14 PDT 2011


On 23/09/2011 1:12 PM, Saul.Z.Newman at kp.org wrote:
>
> We know that Moshe Rabbeinu was born on the 7^th of Adar and died on
> the 7^th of Adar. There seems to be a problem. If you say that someone
> lived a full year it would mean that someone born on the 7^th of Adar
> would die on the 6^th of Adar.

How so?   If something happened last Shabbos, it didn't happen a week ago
today, it happened 6 days ago.


> The full year is complete at a moment that the year is up

By which time it is the 7th.


> When a boy is Bar Mitzvah if he was born on the 7^th of Adar he is
> Bar Mitzvah at sunset of the 6^th of Adar. The year is completed a day
> early.

It is not!!!  He is not bar mitzvah until it is the 7th.  Just to make
sure that one doesn't make the mistake of thinking this, we use the
expression "veyom echad", meaning the first day of the 14th year has
already started.



> It does not seem correct that Moshe Rabbeinu should be born on the 7^th
> of Adar and die on the 7^th of Adar and we should say such an expression
> (היום מלאו ימי ושנותי). Tzorech Iyun.

On the contrary, had he died even a minute early, how could he say
"mal'u"?

The real question is that if it's really true that HKBH completes the
years of tzadikim, why don't we see it more often?  There are so many
people of undoubtable tzidkus who did not die on their birthdays.  Last
week I heard an interesting explanation in the name of the Chasam Sofer:
a tzadik dies on the anniversary of the event that made him who he is,
the encounter with Hashem that turned his life around and caused him to
become a tzadik.  In some cases, e.g. Moshe, a person was a tzadik from
birth.  In other cases, it may be the bar mitzvah, when the full yetzer
tov enters a person, that he dedicates himself to Hashem and never wavers
from that path.  But in many cases the important event happened on another
date, and only he and Hashem know when it was.  (This works even better
if we include the concept of ibbur neshamos, but that wasn't in the CS's
explanation, at least as it was quoted.)


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