[Avodah] r reisman's question

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Fri Sep 23 12:42:26 PDT 2011



 

From: Saul.Z.Newman at kp.org
>> We know that Moshe Rabbeinu  was born on the 7th of Adar and died on the
7th of Adar. There seems to be a  problem. If you say that someone lived a 
full year it would mean that  someone born on the 7th of Adar would die on 
the 6th of Adar. The full year  is complete at a moment that the year is 
up. When a boy is Bar Mitzvah if he  was born on the 7th of Adar he is Bar 
Mitzvah at sunset of the 6th of Adar.  The year is completed a day early. 
It does not seem correct that Moshe  Rabbeinu should be born on the 7th of 
Adar and die on the 7th of Adar and we  should say such an expression (???? 
???? ??? ??????). Tzorech Iyun. 

 
>>>>>
 
You've got something in Hebrew there that shows up as a series of question  
marks on my screen, so I don't know what that is.  But there is an obvious  
answer to the question you pose (if I understand it correctly).  How can it 
 be that a person is born on 7 Adar and also dies on 7 Adar and we call 
that a  full year? (Or in Moshe Rabbeinu's case, 120 full years.)  Isn't that a 
 year plus a day?  The answer is no, it's just one full year, not a year 
and  a day.  Let's say he was born at 7AM on 7 Adar.  If he then dies on 6  
Adar just before sunset at 7PM -- let's say for example -- then he is dying  
about 12 hours short of a full year.
 
IOW to make it a full year he has to die on the same date at the same time  
as the day he was born to fill in the hours of the date he was born that he 
was  not yet in the world.
 
The bar mitzva example is only somewhat relevant because I assume the  
halacha is counting the day you were born as one full day regardless of what  
time you were born.  But that's because that's how humans have to work,  they 
can't go figuring out exact hours and minutes.  But Hashem can.
 
 

--Toby  Katz
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