[Avodah] sun and moon

[Lisa Liel]

On 8/28/2011 11:55 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:45:12AM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
>> On 28/08/2011 2:50 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
>>> Obviously, the Yad doesn't contradict a recurring theme in the Moreh.
>
>> How about "Obviously the Moreh doesn't contradict the Yad"?  If there is
>> any difference, then the Yad is primary, so where the Yad is clear why
>> should I look in the Moreh?
>
> Because if they look to you (sortof, you didn't actually look) like
> they contradict, that means you didn't understand the Yad!

Well, no.  That's actually completely backwards.  For example, there's 
no end of people who maintain that the Rambam says there won't be 
korbanot in Bayit Shelishi, based on their reading of the Moreh.  But 
it's clear from the Yad that this is not the case.  That the Rambam 
absolutely says there will be korbanot.  Otherwise, he wouldn't bring 
their halakhhot.

But since there are no transparent spheres in which the planets and the 
moon are lodged, the Rambam is obviously in error here.  I don't see why 
we need to accept the idea that the planets *or* spheres are sentient, 
let alone sapient.

Lisa