[Avodah] dina demalchuta

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 03:08:48PM -0400, Eli Turkel wrote:
: According to most achronim including RMF one is obligated to pay taxes
: and obey other laws of the kingdom that dont conflict with halacha.

: I understand that some poskim that disagree with RMF and I assume Zev
: is holding like those poskim...

In '07 <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol23/v23n020.shtml#14> RAF (who
must have been living in South Switzerland at the time, "Shalom Y'all"?)
pointed out that DDD means three things:

1- The power of civil law to define minhag hasokherim,
2- the power of taxation
3- the responsibility to maintain a safe and orderly society.

Taxes is a weak example, since the Rabbeinu Tam's hefqer BD hefqer
rationale only supports the latter two. Claiming "other laws of
the kingdom" involves the third category.

All this began with a question about whether one is permitted/obligated
to violate DDD to implement "kofin oso ad sheyomar rotzeh ani". Which
is a different topic than taxation.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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