[Avodah] soup

[David Riceman]

RAM:

<<Maybe everyone *you* know acts that way. But I have no idea how anyone 
holds on this question. I can't ever recall seeing someone having a meal 
of wine and soup. There is either both bread and wine, or bread without 
wine, or neither bread nor wine. But wine and soup without bread?>>

My deduction was from the absence of a beracha when people eat bread and 
soup without wine (see my comment to RCB).

RAZ has informed me offlist, however, that Rabbi Kanievsky is of the 
opinion that someone who eats wine and soup without bread should not 
make a bracha on his soup (see footnote 8 in his (RAZ's) essay "What's 
the Truth About ... Making Berachot After Kiddush?".  I asked if he 
(RCK) rules that such a person must make a bracha when he eats bread and 
soup without wine, and he (RAZ) didn't know.  So I don't know whether 
this ruling is because of safek brachos l'hakel or whether its because 
he (RCK) holds that, me'ikkar hadin, soup is a mashkeh.

David Riceman
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