[Avodah] soup

[kennethgmiller at juno.com]

R' David Riceman asked:

> As far as I know everyone treats soup like a ma'achal and not a
> mashkeh wrt the din "pas poter kol minei ma'achal v'yayin poter
> kol minei mashkeh".  How do we know this?

Maybe everyone *you* know acts that way. But I have no idea how anyone holds on this question. I can't ever recall seeing someone having a meal of wine and soup. There is either both bread and wine, or bread without wine, or neither bread nor wine. But wine and soup without bread?

In any case, I'd like to suggest another nafka mina on whether soup is a maachal or a mashkeh, and that is the shiur for bracha acharona -- is it a kezayis or a reviis? I recall once reading a discussion of this question regarding hot breakfast cereals - farina, oatmeal, and the like.

If soup (or oatmeal) is indeed a maachal, one reason for it might be that a mashkeh is drunk from a glass or other kos. Using a keli to lift it from the bowl to the mouth might be a way of distinguishing the two. But I can also easily see defining the two simply by the ability to pour it.

Akiva Miller

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