[Avodah] R. Hirsch as a Modern Orthodox Leader

[Prof. Levine]

At 04:58 PM 6/30/2011, Micha Berger wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 04:06:22PM -0400, Prof. Levine wrote:
> >> This is empty speculation, but then so is opining about tzadiq vera lo...
>
> > I do not think that it is a stretch of the imagination to think that
> > RSRH's views on Zionism and the State of Israel after the Holocaust would
> > be similar to those of Rav Dr. Joseph Breuer and Rav Shimon Schwab.
>
>But it's still imagination. I was just saying that there is nothing in
>what he actually did say that ceased being true once that battle was
>lost.

What battle was lost?


>Unlike the thrust of most of the Lithuanian opposition. And in fact,
>Agudah went from anti-Zionism to a-Zionism.

But Rav Schwab never changed his opposition to Zionism.  There are 
others also.  Rav Gifter remained steadfast in his opposition to 
Zionism.  The following is from 
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/gifter.cfm

"We know the truth. The truth is that Zionism is a curse, and that's 
the way it is. Zionism is murder! And that's what it really is, 
because it is true!"

See the above URL for the rest of this speech about Zionism.

Yitzchok Levine 
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