[Avodah] Baruch She'amar

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Sat Jun 25 19:29:59 PDT 2011


RZS wrote:
: On 24/06/2011 10:24 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
:> But in any case, I still fail to see the relevence to our initial topic.
:> We're discussing the idea of using a heavenly source to pasqen.

: No, we're discussing the idea of instituting and changing minhagim
: based on information that comes from Above, whether through nevuah,
: ruach hakodesh, dreams, giluy Eliyahu, or papers falling from heaven.
: And these examples and more clearly show that this is legitimate.

I don't think so. Although the word "pasqen" was misplaced, because I
thought "lo bashamayim hi" generalized the conversation, my distinction
stands.

There is a difference between the source of the text, and the source of
the practice of saying it.

: Here are a few more examples:

: * Kaddish yasom based on a dead person's message to R Akiva.

Etc...

Which was about Barekhu. Again, the dead person didn't say "and so,
everyone should do the same too."

The concept of "lo bashamayim hi", whether or not it *CAN* be applied
to minhag, it isn't in any of these cases.

Unlike the Ari telling people that Eliyahu haNavi said things ought to
be done a particular way.

Gut Voch!
-Micha

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