[Avodah] Baruch She'amar

[Rich, Joel]

On 24/06/2011 10:24 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
> But in any case, I still fail to see the relevence to our initial topic.
> We're discussing the idea of using a heavenly source to pasqen.

No, we're discussing the idea of instituting and changing minhagim based on information that comes from Above, whether through nevuah, ruach hakodesh, dreams, giluy Eliyahu, or papers falling from heaven.  And these examples and more clearly show that this is legitimate.

Here are a few more examples:

* Kaddish yasom based on a dead person's message to R Akiva.

* Being careful not to speak during Vayechulu and the Bracha Me'ein Sheva,
  based on a message a dead person gave to someone in a dream.

* Not davening "achorei beis haknesses" without turning ones face to it (I'm really not sure what exactly this means), based on giluy Eliyahu.

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Zev Sero
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May be getting into dangerous territory but could it be the difference between siba/siman (prescriptive/descriptive) meaning that sometimes a change was decided upon for whatever reason (e.g kaddish due to massive "chillul hashem of deaths during crusades-iirc per r'ybs) and a "reason" given (* Kaddish yasom based on a dead person's message to R Akiva.) which is used to strengthen the practice  (and assumes an oral transmission of a R' Akiva story which only appears in writing much later in the or zarua)
KT
Joel Rich
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