[Avodah] Ehrlechkeit, not Frumkeit

[T613K at aol.com]

In a message dated 6/24/2011, llevine at stevens.edu writes:

WADR to  Rn Katz, what she wrote reflects the disconnect between Torah 
learning and  Torah living that Aharon Hersh Fried writes about in his  article 
at _http://www.hakirah.org/Vol%206%20Fried.pdf_ 
(http://www.hakirah.org/Vol%206%20Fried.pdf)    

For many,  being observant focuses on the mitzvos bein Adam  LeMakom and 
the mitzvos bein Adam L'chaveiro are often treated as being of  secondary 
importance or even ignored.  

 
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I never said anything about frum = bein adam laMakom and ehrlach = bein  
adam lechaveiro.  I don't agree with that formulation at all.  
 
Frum is basically observant of ALL mitzvos.  I'm just defining the  normal, 
traditional use of the word.
 
Of course it is a fact that we ALL sin.  Any frum person might well be  
occasionally lax in BOTH the mitzvos that are BALM as well as BALC -- for  
example, many a frum person lets his mind wander while davening and doesn't  
daven every single tefilla with perfect kavana.  
 
And ehrlichkeit, too, can refer to both categories of mitzvos, though  
admittedly "honesty" will usually refer more to BALC.  OTOH, eidelkeit --  
refinement -- will usually refer more to BALM.   But categories tend  to blur and 
overlap.  (For example, if a person habitually  uses four-letter words when 
speaking, is that BALC or BALM?)
 
 

--Toby Katz
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