[Avodah] Consumer Alert: Minhog Scams On The Rise!

[Poppers, Michael]

In Avodah V28n101, RDS asked:
>On a practical basis, I wonder how it works at Mincha; do people pay close attention to the chatzi kaddish after Ashrei, to see whether the chazan says "v'yatzmach purkanei", so that they'll know whether to say "N'kadesh" or "Nakdishach" at Kedusha? <<
> Huh? Why would the congregation be saying something which belongs to
the Chazzen? <
and RnLL responded:
> Every place I daven, everyone says the chazzan's parts in an 
undertone, after which the chazzan says them out loud. <
Like RDS, I grew up in a maqom where only the SHaTZ says (more precisely, invites the tzibbur), "N'qadeish...!" but this is an example of minhag hamaqom, and in many (most?) m'qomos the tzibbur says "N'qadeish" (agreed, RnLL, that they should say this [and the subsequent non-pasuq] phrase in an undertone -- hal'vai...) before the SHaTZ says it.  For those who are interested, this subject is the very first one addressed by RBShH in "Sharshei Minhag Ashk'naz."

All the best from 
-- Michael Poppers via BB pager