[Avodah] our way of (roundabout) speaking

[Poppers, Michael]

In Avodah V28n72#3, REMT replied to R'Micha:
>> I would translate "im yitzeh H'" to "I want it to happen, and hope He does to [I think R'Micha meant "too" --MP]." However, "be'ezras Hashem" is a statement of intent -- "I am going to try to do it, and I hope He allows me to succeed." There is a slight difference between realizing the difference between hope and bitachon and
realizing the difference between hishtadlus and success.
>> E.g. Be"H we're going to the doctor tomorrow, iy"H they'll find a medicine for him then. <<
>     Actually, as Yiddish is spoken, it is exactly the opposite.  When stating the intent to do something, one adds "im yirtze Hashem," thereby indicating the awareness that man proposes, but G-d disposes.  When indicating the desire for an outcome, one says "b'ezras Hashem" or "mit G-tt's hilf," expressing the hope that He will bring about the desired outcome.
Thus, one would say "We're going to the doctor tomorrow, G-d willing; with G-d's help, the doctor will find the cure." <
Far be it from me to get involved in a machloqes between those far more knowledgeable in Yiddish than I am, but I would like to note, FWIW, a fragment from the lyrics of a recently released song called "Ya'alili" (by 8th day) which alternates between "Safaradi" and "Ashk'nazi" Rabbonim/entertainers/songs/phrases -- it compares "shet'hei l'mazal, Safaradi/i'y'H' bei dir, Ashk'nazi," an indication that the way Yiddish (or at least the noted phrase) is used in modern Torah communities, "i'y'H'" means what R'Micha listed it as meaning. 

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-- Michael Poppers via BB pager