[Avodah] ktuba of son of non jewish father

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From: menucha _menu at inter.net.il_ (mailto:menu at inter.net.il) 

a kallah who is  modern orthodox from birth is marrying a son of a jewish
mother and non  jewish father.  They were told that the chatan's name in

the ktuba would be written as (names are being changed) David ben  Malka
bat Dov, i.e him the son of his jewish mother, who is the daughter  of
dov her jewish father.


The chatan is distraught at the thought of his father not  being
mentioned, and by the fact that this is not "the normal way of writing  a
ketuba".


There are definitely issues here of not getting the chatan "turned  off
to judaism" etc.


does anyone know of any piskei halacha on this issue, or have an idea  of
a Rav who would be worth discussing this with?


one idea which came up is by using the names of both parents for  both
bride and groom.
aviva bat reuven veleah, and david ben malka  vechristopher.


any leads would be  appreciated.
thanks
menucha






>>>> 
If they are American, you could have an English ketubah and the English and 
 Aramaic don't have to be the same.  You could mention both fathers (or all 
 four parents) in the English ketubah, and it could be very pretty with 
lots of  flowers and flourishes around the border.  The eidim (or anyone you 
wanted  to honor, really) could sign the English one, too.  If you think the 
father  is going to be listening closely during the reading of the ketubah in 
Aramaic,  maybe you could even have the reader drop the father's name into  
the reading -- without actually writing his name on the real ketubah.  I  
don't know the halacha here, but do you /have/ to read the ketubah as  
written?  I seem to think they do some kind of similar shmuchel with a  kallah who 
is not a besulah but doesn't necessarily want to advertise that fact  to 
all the guests.
 

--Toby Katz
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