[Avodah] Whats the source for calling People for an Aliya to the T by their name ben father's name

Joshua Meisner jmeisner at gmail.com
Thu Apr 28 08:51:21 PDT 2011


On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Meir Rabi <meirabi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Whats the source for calling People for an Aliya to the T by their name ben
> father's name
> What is the earliest source and why do we do it?
> I believe it is not a universal custom, in some places they just say YaAmod
> and point
>
>
The Mordechai (Gittin 402), speaking from the late 13th century, makes note
of the minhag to call a person by his name rather than merely pointing at
him (but does not specify if this includes his father's name), and explains
that it is to avoid strife.  Darchei Moshe 135:8, citing Or Zaru'a, notes
that this was not the minhag during the time of the gemara.  The Rema
(139:3) notes that in general, the minhag is to call a person up by his
father's name.

The Chida (ShuT Chaim Sha'al 1:13) notes, though, that the minhag
Yerushalayim is not to call the oleh by his name, so as to give him the
opportunity to decline the kavod without being subject to the penalty
specified on Brachos 55a for one who is given a sefer torah to read and
declines to do so.

Joshua Meisner
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