[Avodah] ashkenazi minhag

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Sat Apr 23 11:25:42 PDT 2011


<<One final note regarding the blog post that started the thread:  I greatly
admire the work of Mechon Moreshes Ashkenaz, and have no problem with the
blogger's spirited advocacy of the correctness of the classic Minhag
Ashkenaz.  Those who adhere strictly to Minhag Ashkenaz even in Eretz
Yisrael do so with the full backing of respected posekim, and I have no
problem with that.  However, given the reality that some (though not all) of
the minhagim of the Perushim have been nearly universally accepted by
Ashkenazim in Eretz Yisrael (even if there is not any necessarily any rhyme
or reason to why some were and others were not), the proper policy of a new
Ashkenazi kehilla in Eretz Yisrael is not entirely self-evident.  There are
valid arguments both ways, and I do take issue with the characterization of
the vast majority of Ashkenazim in EY, who do say Hallel in shul, as being
"scared of deviating from the Sefaradi minhag".  In reality, the practice
simply reflects one particular approach to the definition, scope, and
applicability of "minhag hamakom.">>

I would go a step further. Given that there are minhagei of EY I dont
understand the
heter for anyone to say but that is not there original minhag. I dont know
the stand of
Machon Moreshes Ashkenaz. However, there are many halachot that EY accepted
the
Machaber over the Ramah. Some examples include "shehechiyanu" at a Brit
Milah and
not wearing tefillin on chol hamoed. As far as I know there is no heter for
an Israeli
(not a visitor from chul) to wear tefillin on chol hamoed because that was
his ancestors
minhag. Minhag hamakom trumps that.

<<Regarding RYBS, according to Harerei Kedem (Volume 2, siman 101b), RYBS
said
that his grandfather R' Chaim held that Hallel should be recited in shul
with a berachah.  This is in stark contradiction to the article in Shorshei
Minhag Ashkenaz (Volume 1, p. 278-9), which paints RCS as a staunch opponent
of the practice.>>

OTOH RYBS brings that his uncle, the Griz, walked out of shul when they said

Hallel Pesach night in shul. This was justified in that one should not be in
shul if one is not particpating. RYBS uses this as a jusitification that one
who has parents should leave when
yizkor is said.

-- 
Eli Turkel
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