[Avodah] mitzva for a goy

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:32:20AM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: from the same shiur with regard to an old discussion on timtum ha-lev the
: Netziv and Mesech Chochma claim that if one eats a nevela to save one's
: life there is still timtum halev. Therefore they explain the preference
: to slaughter an animal on shabbat to save a person rather than feed them
: nonkosher food. Thus, timtum halev is a more physical effect rather than
: purely halachic

Do you have a mar'eh maqom for the MC? I used Bar Ilan to search the
Or Sameiach and Meshekh Chokhmah for the phrases "timtum haleiv" and
"metamteim es haleiv" and couldn't find either.

See http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol15/v15n062.shtml#07 (Jul 2005)
where RSMashbaum wrote:
> R. Asher Weiss in Michat Asher - Vayikra - Parshat Shmini has an
> interesting chakira on kashrut and timtum halev: What is the cause, and
> what is the result? Is food non-kosher because it induces timtum halev,
> or does timtum halev derive from the non-kosher nature of the food? Did
> the Torah forbid certain foods because it knew that they have deleterious
> spiritual effects, or are the foods essentially spiritually neutral,
> but the aveira of eating them causes them to have a negative spiritual
> effect on the person? He cites a Ramban and a Maharal regarding this
> chakira. Ayen Sham

> The nakfa mina is clear: what if one ate non-kosher food permissibly,
> because of pikuach nefesh? If it is the food itself because of its
> essential nature which causes timtum halev, this would presumably be
> true even b'oness. If it is the aveira which causes the timtum, then if
> the food is consumed b'heter, no timtum would result. RAW cites several
> sources that indicate that non-kosher food has a negative effect even
> if consumed permissibly, supporting one side of his chakira. .(R. Asher
> cites the Rama inYoreh Deah 81:7 quoted by Yitzchok Brandriss)

RBKaufman wrote later in that discussion
<http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol15/v15n065.shtml#07>:
> R. Raphael Moshe Luria in his sefer Beis Ginzi (Parshas Vayikra),
> cites the Zohar and the Ohr HaChaim that say that eating non-kosher
> food is almost impossible to gain a kapara for, unlike almost any other
> aveira. This is because the cheftza shel issur remains part of the body
> until death.

> To me this seems to imply that the food itself is metamtem.
> hmmm... OTOH maybe it is the issur that gives the food this quality. Now
> I'm not sure.

RMF wrote <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol15/v15n040.shtml#01>:
> In fact, in my Bar Ilan CD search I found that Mishne Halachos 16:137
> specifically states that even where something is muttar to eat because
> of bittul b'rov, nevertheless, one may be machmir not to eat it because
> of timtum ha'lev.....

To which R Meir Rabi wrote:
> Upon reflection of Moshe's observations, note the Beney Yisaschar
> [Adar MaAmar 2-7] who suggests (and draws same conclusion from Shelo"Hk)
> that it is preferable [Mitzvah Hoo BeDavKeh] to consume the food that
> contains acceptable levels of non kosher food.



Kayadua from numerous thread about this and about whether the cheftza
of mezuzah provides shemirah beyond the mitzvah's sechar, I have serious
philosophical problems with one tzad of this chiluq.


Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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