[Avodah] R Chiyya Raba

[Micha Berger]

On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 06:50:19PM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: R Chiyya died before Rebbe so why would one think that R chiyya cant
: disagree
: with Rebbe any less than other tannaim from that generation like R. Yishmael
: the son of R. Yose etc.
: R Chiya is generally consider a talmid-chaver of Rebbe

I realize from the discussion, my question is based on the assumption
that when the CI says the 2 millenia of Torah end with the composing of
the mishnah, that means the day the mishnah was "closed", the era ended.
The CI's model, it seems to me, isn't based on who is a tanna or who
is an amora, but which statement was made before that day, and which
statement was made after.

This explains Rav tanna hu upalig -- if Rav made most of his statements
before that date. Similarly, R' Chiyya Ruba.

But still, my point remains that the CI really speaks of dates of
decisions, not people.

As to dating R' Chiya Rubba... There are two R' Chiyas. There are stories
that place RCR contemporary with Rav and Bar Kaparah. However, just FYI,
R' Chiya of the 1st generation of amora'im is Rav's uncle; R' Chiya bar
Abba lived two generations later. I had to sort them out to figure out
that RCR was the earlier one.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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