[Avodah] Local, Non-Global or Global Flood

Zvi Lampel zvilampel at gmail.com
Tue Nov 30 18:19:08 PST 2010


On 11/20/2010 8:05 PM, RMB wrote:

>  But if the mishnah says we can't comprehend maaseh Bereishis, than
>  anything we understand to be the literal meaning of the verse's
>  description of history is in error.

What mishna?

And how does your intepretation square with sources such as these:

For we, the community following in the footsteps of Moshe Rabbeynu and 
Avraham Avinu, aleihem hashalom, believe that the world came into being 
in such-and-such a form, and became such-and-such from such-and-such 
(/haya kach mi-kach)/, and such was created after such (Moreh Nevuchim 
2:17),

*/Midrash Shemos Rabbah/*//(30:9) recording *Onkelos'* marveling the 
fact that /the youngest Jewish children know "how the 
Holy-One-Blessed-be-He created the world.?They know what was created the 
first day and what was created the second day, how much [time] there is 
since the world was created, and what [good deeds] sustain the world. 
And their Torah is true."/

And the *Ramban* citing this /Midrash/ to illustrate that "the Torah 
'opens one's eyes,' /for it reveals to us the secret of the Formation, 
the subject of Maaseh Breishis, the Creation and Formation of the 
Universe/,"

not to mention the Ramban insisting that the days of MB were regular 
says like those after them, consisting of minutes and hours, plus the 
numerous other rishonim who very clearly take the days of MB such, and 
argue over whether the Nachash was a snake or the Yetzer Hara?

Were all these rishonim who understood the peshat meaning of MB as a 
description of history in error and in violation of your mishna?
**


Zvi Lampel

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