[Avodah] Local, Non-Global or Global Flood

[Zev Sero]

On 23/11/2010 11:23 PM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 07:30:22PM -0500, T613K at aol.com wrote:
> : In the context of the great day that is coming (lifnei ba yom Hashem), the
> : "day" is clearly the day Hashem's reign begins, the day Mashiach comes, the
> :  day of the Ge'ulah.  It doesn't refer to the entirety of His reign.

> Again: and is "Yom shekulo Shabbos", which I think is synonymous with
> "Yom Hashem", only 24 hours?

"Yom shekulo shabbos" doesn't appear in Tanach.  It appears only once in
mishnayos, in the last mishneh of Tamid, and that mishneh is quoted twice
in Shas.  It's a drosho on "mizmor shir leyom hashabbos", where the pshat
clearly is a 24-hour day.  I don't see how you can use that as a precedent
for learning pshat in an instance of "yom" in Tanach.


> What about the "yamim achadim" that Yaaqov would have to wait for
> Esav's anger to cool off. Is 22 years "a few days"

Rivkah never expected it to last even close to that long.  We've already
seen that "yamim" (but not "yom") can mean a year, as in "chodesh o yamim"
so I'd translate "yamim achadim" as "a few years", which was Rivkah's
optimistic guess for how long it would take till it would be safe for
Yaacov to return.


> See IE ad loc (Ber' 27:44)
> and his comparison to the "yamim" of yovel. Explicitly makes yom a period
> other than 24 hours.

No, he doesn't.  He translates exactly as I just suggested above.
"Yamim" means a year, and "achadim" means any number less than ten.

  
> Finally, see also the Sefer haShorashim, entry "yom" of both the Radaq
> and R' Yonah ibn Janach about cases where "yom" refers to a year.
> (In the Radaq, see<http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/vl/radak/radak03.pdf>
> pg 136, middle of amudah 272, starting with "Aval qasheh".)

Again, that is explicitly about "yamim", not "yom".


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