[Avodah] Sukka must be kosher for sleeping?

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 09:26:08PM +1100, Zev Sero wrote:
>> Feelings aren't always immediate. That's how shrinks "make the big money."

> But the subject here is immediate feelings.  A person may misremember
> how he felt the last time he went bowling...

Different meaning of immediacy. I means "redily at hand", not in the
sense of time. People are moved by more emotions than they are aware
of having. And of those we are aware of, many we are ashamed of and
actively hide from ourselves.

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>> As already pointed out I conflated mitzta'eir with the mitzvah of simchas
>> YT. But in the latter case this is itself problematic. Enjoying a good
>> tune isn't the same as enjoying davening. Nor all happiness that is on YT
>> "simchas YT".

> Not all pleasures are the same, some are better, more intense, longer-
> lasting, more meaningful, engage the person on several levels rather
> than just one; but they are all pleasure and not tzaar.  Enjoying
> davening is surely better for the soul than merely enjoying a tune;
> but both are enjoyment, whereas "mitzta'er" is the opposite feeling.

You're reconflating the two topics, repeating my error.
Shifting now entirely to simchas Yom Tov...

Forced happiness isn't necessarily simchas yom tov. It's simchas
whatever-I-used-to-elicit-happiness. Nor is it likely to qualify as
"akh sameiach" with none of the original irritation/sadness/whatever left.

Now, returning to mitzta'eir... Creating happiness doesn't necessarily
remove the tza'ar. RMMS (the last LR) writes WRT R' Nachman's "mitzvah
gedolah lihyos besimchah tamid" that even during times of aveilus,
a person should simultaneously feel simchah. This is why HQBH created
within us the capacity for ambivalence.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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