[Avodah] lulav waving

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:16:42PM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: Some people said their minhag was to do one waving per syllable meaning
: 2 for ana, 3 for hoshea and 1 for na. Does anyone know a source for this?

You don't think it's just stam logistics without actual basis? After all,
waving two directions during that final "nna" or "na" is difficult. Simple
habit would shift people to one wave per syllable. (Particularly when
people are relating in terms of nostalgia and sounds, rather than meaning
and words.)

Does your siddur have a dageish in the nun? If so, for both "hoshi'ah"
and "hatzliachah"?

Dr. Meshullam Klarberg wrote <http://torahsearch.com/page.cfm/3333>:
    The same problem occurs in the reading of Hallel in the pasuk
    ana h' hoshiah na, ana h' hatzlichah na (Psalms 118:25), with
    its two elongated imperatives. Minchat Shai, a commentary that
    deals with Masorah and grammar, quotes the Masorah on hatzlichah
    as saying that there is none identical to it with the stress on
    the last syllable, and there is one vehatzlichah (Nehemiah 1:11)
    with penultimate stress. This means that, contrary to the accepted
    rules, hatzlichah in our pasuk should be read with the stress on the
    last syllable. Minchat Shai discusses this assertion at length and
    concludes that if one is in doubt one should follow the custom. Many
    siddurim indicate the stress on this word in accordance with the
    Masorah as reported by Minchat Shai. In the Tenach, which Rabbi
    M. Breuer edited (according to the Masorah of Ben Asher in Keter
    Aram Tzova), he indicated that hoshiah and hatzlichah should both
    be read with penultimate stress. Many chazanim read it this way.

Another nafqa mina is that according to the Minchas Shai it should read:
"Ana H' hosi'ah nna; ana H' hatzlichah na." Older siddurim, meaning
pre-ArtScroll, conform to this. ArtScroll, at least the Hebrew-only Ashk
I looked into yesterday, does not.

Not that I think waving in two directions during "nna" is made much
easier by the dageish...

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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