[Avodah] saying kaddish together

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Mon Feb 1 12:47:23 PST 2010


Harry Weiss:
> I make sure to avoid Yekke shuls, where visitor frequently can not
> say a Kaddish.

My shul generally had one at a time but we went back and forth

Here are "Taqqanos" I made over the years to accomodate aveilim:

1 although the minhag was not to aleinu between minchah erev shabbos
and qabbalos shabbos, when a Friday Jahrzeit came, I added aleinu

2 when we said one @ a time and we had many aveilim EG @ shacharis,
we kept adding a mizmor to make sure everyone got a qaddish

3 later - when confronted with a large group of aveilim - I allowed
group Qaddish and I appointed a "gabbai" to lead the group. All went
up to either side of the Shatz as is the German minhag and said qaddish
in unison.

4 once a real latecomer came in and we added a mizmor for him

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However, from the "yekke" model [which was the ashkenaz model until
about 200 years ago] shomeia k'oneh works and probably best for the
hiyyuv who is not saying to listen with kavvanah to be yotzei

And even Yekke shuls that had only 1 zugger allowed other aveilim to
recite along quietly - although as I have already pointed out [perhaps
offline] this presents other problems of saying w/o responders.

I am preparing a post with mareh m'qomos BEH

KT
RRW
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