[Avodah] saying kaddish together

Harry Weiss hjweiss at panix.com
Sun Jan 31 16:59:49 PST 2010


> From: rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
>
> R Eli Turkel:
>> I know of many poskim including RMF that insist that everyone should
>> say the kaddish in unison and the same nusach. Does anyone know of
>> any teshuvot that lechatchila allow a variety of nuschahim to be said
>> for kaddish?
>
> Here would be my order of preference
>
> 1 Only 1 individual saya kaddish at a time in the shul nusach only -
> acting as sh'liach tzibbur original format.
>
> Note: if necessary, say an extra mizmor to give each individual at least
> ONE kaddish per hiyyuv. [Shelo k'da'as haGRA]
That could be time consuming and problematic in our mobile society.  I am
in eveilus and travel a considerable amount.  I have  been to numerous
shuls.    I make sure to avoid Yekke shuls, where visitor frequently can
not say a Kaddish.

>
> 2A Unison in shul nusach as per the current minhag - a compromise to
> make shalom

One shul in Dallas had everyone (except for the Shaliach Tzibur) stand at
the shulchan used for Krias Hatorah, to say Kaddish.    Things were very
orderly.

>
> 2B Only 1 individual say kaddish at a time but in his own nusach only
> acting as sh'liach tzibbur - in a tzibbur that tolerates different
> nusachos
>
> ...
>
> 99
> Allow everyone to say kaddish in their own nusach [I would also demand
> 9 listeners per reciter] "...and to wait for the longest version."
> If 9 listeners per, I could dispense with this last clause completely.
>

Our shul allows people to use their own Nussach.  We are a Nussach Askenaz
shul but have many Iranians who are Particular about using their own
nussach.   (When serving as shalicah Tzibur, except for Kaddish Yasom,
they must use their own Nussach.


One other questions about nusach.   I always though when davening in any
shul one should say Kedushah with the Nusach of the shul.  I notice that
Lubavitcher will uniformly say Nakdishach.... very loud rather than
Nekadesh in an Nusach Askenaz shul.  Does any one know the basis for that.




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