[Avodah] Davening Outside (was davening in public)

[Prof. Levine]

At 11:24 AM 2/5/2010, Eli Turkel wrote:

>I am not sure about davening in the open under the heavens.
>Of course at the Kotel it is usually done (except for those inside 
>the tunnels)
>Also in EY it is common to see cars pulled over late in the day and
>people davening mincha
>outside their cars where such activities are not unusual
>
>Furthermore during the summer I frequently see groups on a tiyul (both
>RZ and charedi)
>davening mincha outside

Someone mentioned to me that Kiddush Levana and Birchas Ha Chamah are 
both done outside.  However, it may well be that the prohibition that 
Reb Yaakov was talking about was saying Shemoneh Esrei outside under 
the heavens. After all, it is not uncommon for people to go on 
picnics and make brochos on the food they are eating.

As far as the Kosel goes, I received the following:

Please see Tosfos Brochos perek 4, ein omdin daf lamed daled omed 
beis (34B) dibur habaschil chotzuf, Re Yitchok ovinu, : "Har HaMoria 
shaane !",
see side comment there.  so the Kosel is the same matter.

I replied, "However, it is not at all clear to me that the Kosel 
Plaza has the same din as the Har Habyis.  It certainly does not have 
the same kedusha, because if it did, then many would hold that one is 
not allowed to even set foot there.  After all, the Kosel is an outer 
wall built by Herod. It was certainly not part of the Bais Hamikdash. "

He replied, "It seems right that only Shmoneh Esreh is the issue.  Re 
"Kosel Plaza", it is Har-HaMoria (not only Har habayis that matters)"

YL


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