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<font size=3>At 11:24 AM 2/5/2010, Eli Turkel wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I am not sure about davening in
the open under the heavens.<br>
Of course at the Kotel it is usually done (except for those inside the
tunnels)<br>
Also in EY it is common to see cars pulled over late in the day and<br>
people davening mincha<br>
outside their cars where such activities are not unusual<br><br>
Furthermore during the summer I frequently see groups on a tiyul
(both<br>
RZ and charedi)<br>
davening mincha outside</font></blockquote><br>
<font size=3>Someone mentioned to me that Kiddush Levana and Birchas Ha
Chamah are both done outside. However, it may well be that the
prohibition that Reb Yaakov was talking about was saying Shemoneh Esrei
outside under the heavens. After all, it is not uncommon for people to go
on picnics and make brochos on the food they are eating.<br><br>
As far as the Kosel goes, I received the following:<br><br>
<b>Please see Tosfos Brochos perek 4, ein omdin daf lamed daled omed beis
(34B) dibur habaschil chotzuf, Re Yitchok ovinu, : "Har HaMoria
shaane !", <br>
see side comment there. so the Kosel is the same matter.<br><br>
</b>I replied, "However, it is not at all clear to me that the Kosel
Plaza has the same din as the Har Habyis. It certainly does not
have the same kedusha, because if it did, then many would hold that one
is not allowed to even set foot there. After all, the Kosel is an
outer wall built by Herod. It was certainly not part of the Bais
Hamikdash. "<br><br>
He replied, "<b>It seems right that only Shmoneh Esreh is the
issue. Re "Kosel Plaza", it is Har-HaMoria (not only Har
habayis that matters)" <br><br>
YL<br><br>
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