[Avodah] Dishwasher for meat and milk

[Richard Wolpoe]

I am just reading the ROY teshuva... Yabia Omer 10:4
he  seems to construs SA 95:4 as a lechatchila There is ZERO doubt in my
mind that this is strictly b'diavad What the SA is saying in context of the
previous s'if are both "hudcha" not "madichin"  The SA is saying in the 2
cases no damage has been done and the dishes are muttar NOT the process.
This is an obvious read even disregarding the Shach citation of hag'ala to
prove this from Orach Hayyim

What SA is saying is that just as the case in 3 no harm is done, So it is
also true if eifer preceeds the dishes into the water.  Zehu pashut While
Taz shach and GRA shrei against this m"chabeir as unfounded,  I think the SA
has a point b"diavad.

I find it a great tzrich Iyyun to construe this as a l'chatchilah.  Just
because m'chaeir sticks a muttar at the end does NOT mean the process is
Muttar, just the keilim!

linguistically and philogolically the m'chabeir WOULD/SHOULD/COULD have said
Madicihin beyorah she'var nasnu eifer b'socho
OR
Muttar l'hadi'ach...

Those are the proper forumlations for a l"chatchila. Rather the M'chabeir is
saying post facto MUTTAR meaning no damage has been done

Illustration:
One would say a kli sheini that contained milk and meat together is MUTTAR
Would anyone allow cooking it l'chatchila in a kli sheini? I think not!  The
citation from hag'alah supports this

I will BEH question the mechanics of how a dishwasher works later.  Maybe in
Israel they work differently than in the USA. '

I will BEH this Teshuva further.

A case for zeh achar zeh could be made. RMF has already done so under
certain conditions


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