[Avodah] reform and conservative

[Harry Maryles]

Are you saying that unless we know forcertain that a C Jews is not a Kofer - we cannot count him into a Minyan?
 
I don't see how you can say the HaMon Am of C has a Chezkas Pasul. They are mostly TNKs who don't delve into matters of Kefira. They join C for social reasons. JTS graduates are another story.
 
HM

Want Emes and Emunah in your life? 

Try this: http://haemtza.blogspot.com/

--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:


I also know C rabbis who are essentially Deist (believe that G-d created
the world and let it run). Having a skeptical attitude toward nissim
will push more people in that direction.

RMF, however, excludes C and R rabbis and cantors from the category of
TSN, his statement was only about the masses. As I usually add in this
recurring discussion, I'm not sure he would have still said so today,
a generation removed. I have some idea of what's taught at JTSA today,
and am not sure they fit RMF's description. They are taught many things,
but not that much of what we call Torah. In fact, in the mid-90s, when
I last checked, they had more required hours of bible criticism than of
shas or halakhah.

OTOH, RMF must have meant this as a rule of thumb when you don't know the
individual. Because in cases where RMF knew the C rabbi was personally
observant, he did accept him as an eid. I can't picture a rationale that
would accept him as kasher le'eidus, but a kofeir WRT minyan.


      
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