[Avodah] so is she married?

[Micha Berger]

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:54:50PM +0000, kennethgmiller at juno.com wrote:
: But I can understand that *only* if there is some reasonable basis to
: the machmir opinions...

: When teenagers play around, and stage a pretend wedding, everyone
: knows that they were just playing, and did not intend to actually get
: married. But they *did* go through the motions...

As did someone who said "Will you marry me?", gives her a ring, there
are eidim, and both of them even have every intent to spend the rest of
their lives as a couple. No?

I mean, the gemara says giving her a ring while discussing inyanei
qiddushin is enough, or "will you be buried next to me?" I can see why
some machmirim would wonder about this case as well -they are on the
topic when he gave her a ring. I also can see why meiqilim would say
that intent to engage is la'afuqei intent for real (halachic) eirusin
even though they are discussing the inyan.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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