[Avodah] children at a wedding
T613K at aol.com
T613K at aol.com
Sat Oct 31 22:07:43 PDT 2009
> Children "fashter" the simcha because in their hearts they are
> never wholeheartedly besimcha to see one parent marrying
> another partner, whether the other parent died or was "lost"
> because of divorce. [--TK]
>>On the one hand, despite many posts in this thread, and the several
sources offered for this practice, this is the first and (so far) only attempt
at explaining the *reasons* behind this practice. And for that I offer my
thanks to RTK.
But I still don't understand it.
Are you suggesting that a person should not attend a wedding unless he
will be there "wholeheartedly besimcha"?
Would that logic forbid a parent to attend a child's wedding, if the
parent is opposed to this shidduch? ...<<
Akiva Miller
>>>>>
I don't think what I wrote about children not being wholeheartedly besimcha
is the whole, or only, reason. I didn't mean it to be exhaustive.
A factor related to what I wrote, about children putting a chill on their
parents' wedding, is that the children are tangible reminders for everyone
to see -- the chasan and kallah and all the guests -- that there was a
previous marriage that ended tragically, whether it ended in death or divorce.
This casts a pall on everyone present. The wedding is supposed to be a new
beginning, not a longing glance back.
I would also say, regarding parents who are not totally happy with their
children's choice of mate, that that is still not the same as a child who in
his heart carries a loyalty to the missing parent and a grievance against
the other parent for his "disloyalty" (whether remarrying after being
widowed or after a divorce). The child at a wedding is, literally, torn. He
wants to be happy for his father but cannot forget his mother. The
disgruntled parents at their child's wedding have no such divided loyalties.
Another factor has to do with tznius, that is, a child should not think of
his parents as romantic, sexual beings. Every child knows that he was born
through immaculate conception and that his own parents never, ever had sex
(no matter what anyone /else's/ parents may have done). Seeing a parent
marry a new person makes it very hard /not/ to think of the parent
consummating the relationship with a new person -- it almost forces the child to see
his parents as sexually active people, which really one never wants to
think about. Of course, after the wedding the new couple are going to share a
bedroom, but that's not the same as being at the actual wedding where
"everybody knows why they go to the chupa" is operative. I am not expressing
this as well as I would like to, but people play different roles when they
are courting, falling in love and marrying than they play when they are
parenting. I also feel strongly that parents should not involve their children
at all in their dating and courting lives, and should not introduce their
children to potential suitors, until the relationship is very serious and a
marriage is very likely. Whatever cuteness, flirtatiousness, girlishness
(or boyishness), go on between two who are courting -- should not be
witnessed by their children.
--Toby Katz
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