[Avodah] Yom Tov Sheni for Olim LeReget to the Beit Mikdash

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

Micha:
> Rabban Gamliel insisted on a particular date for Yom Kippur

RZS:
> No, he didn't.  Where do you get the idea that he had any preference
> for one date over another?  He was mekadesh the month according to
> the eidim that came before him, because he believed they were telling
> the truth.

Bartenura RH 2:8

> Ela sheyada Rabban Gamliel becheshbono sheb'oso halaylah she'amru
> ho'eidim shrau'ha... Lefichach qibbeil Eidussan"

Mashma he would have NOT been meqabbel sans the Cheshbon
I assume Bartenura culled this from Shas


RZS:
> Do you mean to suggest that in Rav's time they *never* said a bracha
> on Hallel, even when it's definitely an obligation? How could they
> *not* say a bracha on it then?

Too long for a post.
Many brachos on Mitzvos were late

In fact the bracha ligmor es hahallel pre-supposes the pre-existence of
an incomplete Hallel! [Except as per shibolei haleqet's ambiguity here]

So the only logical sequence must be
[At least as per sephardic tradition and their nusach of the brachah
found in shas]

Full Hallel
Hallel bedillug
Followed by
Brachah ONLY on Full Hallel viz. LIGMOR

If hallel as full with a brachah on day one the nusach "ligmor" is kinda
meaningless. What other Hallel was there before Rav coming to Bavel?

Unless you say there WAS an older nusach that morphed

Point? The existence of a brachah on Hallel in Rav's story is
speculation. Tosafos and RT are presuming it. Take out that presumption
and hltheir rayos fall flat


And If RT's raya was slam dunk brachah for Hallel on Rosh Chodesh,
why does Minhag Chabad hedge and have Shatz say brachah for others?
[Which matches AhS's position]

Even Rema hedges when a person is alone to get at least one more person.

KT
RRW
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