[Avodah] [Areivim] Halacha of speeding/Jewish ethics curriculum de velopment help

[Rich, Joel]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:56:41PM -0400, Rich, R Joel wrote:
: WADR I understand R'MB's point - but while they may have simply "known"
: what is right, imho it is because they resonated to some underlying
: ratzon hashem. Are arguing that the underlying ratzon hashem is not
: reproducible by any algorithm (i.e. it is at some level random)? ...

Actually, I think you did miss R' Moshe Koppel's point, or my version thereof. At least, that's what it implied by that parenthetic comment.
His whole thesis is that intelligence and Torah are neither algorithmic NOR random. Yes, they went beyond anything we can do with an algorithm, but that doesn't mean that "it is at some level random".

In the Artificial Intelligence debates, RMKoppel's position is that intelligence can't be done in a computer program -- it's something more than an algorithm.
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Funny, right after I wrote the post I regretted using the word random instead of arbitrary.

In any event, aiui you are positing that chazal's " intelligence" as iiuc you call it later, is not uniquely reproducible by rational reasoning based on the written and oral law and rules given at sinai.  If so, we can conclude the discussion.

KT
Joel Rich
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