[Avodah] Water bottle in the desert

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 05:00:52PM -0400, Rich, Joel wrote:
:> But it seems to me that Shimon has no claim on the water bottle.
:> Even if the debt is real, and Reuvain is modeh, Shimon certainly does not
:> have the right to demand the water bottle davka as payment...

:> At that point, it seems to me that Shimon is a rodef, and Reuvain
:> would be able to kill him in self defense.
: 
: Shimon already took the water bottle. Why is he now the rodef?

A fetus could be a rodeif. Isn't that based on the notion that being a rodeif
doesn't imply culpability?

: BTW can one be a rodef through passive inaction (e.g. he has the key
: to unlock your chains from the railroad track but doesn't)

Using the same halakhah pesuqah WRT abortion, it would seem yes.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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